Sorry for the downtime
August 7th, 2008I had no control over it. It was a server issue. Sorry everyone!
I had no control over it. It was a server issue. Sorry everyone!
Member Ted started a discussion on our forums (you knew we had a forum, right?) urging former and current employees to come forward with info confidentially. Since it was his idea I’ll just tell you what he said:
Recognizing that there is normally high turnover in companies such as PHL and American Debt Negotiators, I would really like to hear from those who’ve been laid off by Mark Burton and Ran David Barnea. Of course you’ve been used as pawns by the criminals who lurk behind the scenes. These days everyone needs work and I don’t judge you for your unfortunate experience at PHL.
You former PHL employees have a chance to do some real good right now. Yes, I know that doesn’t pay the bills, but you’d be surprised by what good will ultimately come to you. If anyone is willing to come forward, I will make it my business to help you.
This forum is a good place to start. Going to law enforcement is even better. There are ways to stay annonymous for now, and ways to be known when it is safe. There is nothing like doing the right thing.
Member and friend TM also chimed in with this:
I agree with this. Good things do come to good people.
Anyone with information about the inside happenings at ADN/PHL, now is the time to step up and do the right thing. You can post here anonymously and help shine a bright light on the doings of the “executives” who have masterminded this illegal activity. This goes not only for past employees, but also current ones (we know that you visit this site too). You are about to lose your jobs anyway when the authorities bust the company, so you could cut your losses now by posting that you are willing to cooperate and provide information useful in the eventual and inevitable bust of the company by the authorities (who are closing in fast), and start moving on to other endeavors (hopefully more honorable than working for this slimy company). Join the ones who already have joined the effort (you’d be surprised how many there are that already are providing valuable information).
And for slime of the ilk of Mr. M.B. and his kind (including ADN/PHL’s scumbag lawyers) who might try to plant a ringer to pass misleading information, think twice. We already are learning enough about your and R.D.B.’s dealings to be able (with their help of some of your past employees who already have joined us) to quickly spot BS and trip you up with it. So, you want to dig a hole for yourselves even deeper then the one your already in, be my guest. But don’t ever say that no one tried to warn you.
If you come forward you will be anonymousunless you elect to reveal your real identity. If you decide to post on the forum even I won’t know who you are.
I’ve setup a section just for you called the ‘Whistleblowers Corner’.
UPDATE: I’ve setup an email account that you can use to email me if you’re not comfortable posting on the blog or forum. stoppingheather at hushmail dot com
This account is protected by encryption and cannot be read by prying eyes. Please feel free and safe to contact me there.
Sorry about the lack of updates lately, I’ve been sitting on a little info, which I will share with you now.
Remember a few months ago I reported that PHL was temporarily shutting down? Well, I was kinda right, kinda wrong. Here’s what happened.
ADN told everyone they were shutting down for two weeks, what they failed to mention was that for some the shut down was permanent. They laid off all their ‘fronters’; the people who you first talk to that try to sell you on the product. They kept on all their ‘closers’ though….hmmmm why?
Because they outsourced the fronters to Peru and India!
I suppose this was an attempt to say ‘we’re not doing any solicitations, Mr. Ohio AG’, but in reality it’s still ADN/PHL that contracted with them.
And by the way the spoofed number, no regard for the law I bet they still control the dialer.
So while that may have made them feel slightly safer, we are still onto them and we will not stop until they are out out of business, and hopefully facing criminal as well as civil charges.
Keep reporting numbers and help spread the word about this site so we can put a stop to this once and for all!
Things have been very quiet on the blog and forum lately, and that’s not going to help stop these companies. Keep reporting the numbers they call you from, they benefit others. The more info we have against them the better the chances state AG’s will take notice, the better the chances the media will take notice. If nothing gets done then the calls continue and they get worse. This is a grassroots effort and I need all your help. I can’t do it alone.
Hey folks,
I’ve finished installing the forum. You can find it at forum.heatherwithaccountservices.com.
It’s a work in progress and will be improved over the coming days and weeks.
Please go join and start posting!
I was over at Honeypot.net’s Heather section and saw this:
Is heatherwithaccountservices.com the real scam
On May 27th, 2008 Anonymous says:Anyone else thinking that heatherwithaccountservices.com is the scam within the scam? They have likely generated the entire thing to set up a “donation” site to scam you. Sort of like the arsonist being a fire fighter. Anyone check out their credentials?
Now, this was not posted by anyone at Honeypot. This is either by an incredibly misguided person, or (and this is more likely) someone associated with the Heather calls trying to discredit this site.
For the record, this is not a scam site. I do this because I’m tired of these calls. I accept donations because this site is not free to run. I’m not masking money doing this and I am not scamming anyone.
I’ve had to put up with a lot of crap while running this site, like I’ve had to switch hosts and domain registrars already because the actual people involved sent their lawyer after me. I’ve had to deal with someone posting my name address and phone number on callferret associating me with this scam. And instead of taking it down, callferret banned me.
So if you see anyone trying to call me a scammer, please set them straight.
If you’re a returning visitor you’re probably wondering where all the content has gone. Not to worry. I thought the blog was getting a little full and hard to follow so I moved all the older posts to an archive. All your comments are there as well.
You can access the archive at
archives.heatherwithaccountservices.com
If you’re a new reader the archives have a lot more information and it’s definitely worth taking a look at to get the full story.
We have some cool new things on the way, including a forum, so keep checking back!
There are a few companies that I know are making these calls, and probably some more that I don’t know about. Here is the ever growing list of companies I do know about.
American Debt Negotiators.
11555 Heron Bay Blvd. Suite 200
Coral Springs, FL 33076
866-969-4236
http://www.adnnow.com/
ADN is run by a man named Ran David Barnea. Mr. Barnea, whose shady business practices have been the subject of prior legal reprimand, owns quite a few companies, some active, some not. While ADN is the one charging you, the actual company doing the calls is Metukon Corporation, which may or may not still be doing its call-center business under the name of PHL International. In addition to American Debt Negotiators, Ran David Barnea also owns Metukon and PHL International. Metukon is managed by Mark Burton and is located at
836 S. Military Trail
Deerfield Beach FL, 33442
Other companies owned by Ran David Barnea:
METUKON CORP.
BARNEA, INCORPORATED
METUKON CORP
AMERICAN CONSUMER ADVOCATES LAW GROUP, LLC
BETUOCH MANAGEMENT VENTURE CORPORATION
BMV DEBT MANAGEMENT CORP
AMERICAN DEBT NEGOTIATORS, INC.
BEST LEADS CORP.
BETZALEL, CORPORATION.
NELAM INTERNATIONAL CORP.
PHL INTERNATIONAL, INC.
ESV INTERNATIONAL, INC.
IXE Accelerated Financial Center, LLC
927 FERN STREET
STE 2300
ALTAMONTE SPRINGS FL 32701
888-226-5185
http://ixeacceleratedfinancialservices.com/
Manged by Ivan E. Torres, with the registered agent on file Carol Cambell.
I don’t have much on IXE yet, but that’s going to change quickly.
Interest Savings Today
675 Deltona Blvd
Deltona, Florida 32725
888-326-2564
http://www.interestsavingstoday.com/
John Martinez seems to be in control here.
It is unclear at the moment, but a subject of ongoing investigation, whether or not these companies have a common bond, either in ownership interests, or in the sharing of call centers, dialing equipment, and/or telemarketing scripts. It also is unclear at the moment, but becoming more apparent, that one or all of these companies are not only responsible for the illegal “Heather with Account Services” credit card calls, but also the unsolicited and illegal calls regarding extending automobile warranties, as both scams appear to be using the same pool of spoofed Caller ID phone numbers and similarly deceptive telemarketing techniques.
First, Please take a moment to fill out this form.
It will post everything to a spreadsheet that will be provided to the authorities to help any current or future investigations. None of the info you provide will be given to anyone but the authorities, or attorneys seeking action against the guilty parties.
Next, file a complaint with the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
After that file a complaint with Your States Attorneys General
And with the the Federal Communications Commission
I would also recommend filing a complaint with The Federal Trade Commission
Welcome to heatherwithaccountservices.com!
If you’re here there’s a good chance you’ve gotten this call:
“Hello. This is Heather at account services. And we’re calling in reference to your current credit card account. There’s no problems currently with your account. It is urgent however that you contact us concerning your eligibility for lowering your interest rate. Your eligibility expires shortly. So please consider this your final notice. Please press one now on your phone to speak with a live operator and lower your interest rate. Or press two to discontinue further notices. Thank you and have a great day.”
The problem is you’ve gotten this call many many times for months, or even years. You’ve probably been verbally abused and harrassed by the operators, and you’re fed up.
You’re not alone. This site is dedicated to bringing down the people behind these calls down. Inside you’ll find a lot of information. You’ll learn how the calls are made, who is making them, where to fill out complaints regarding these calls, and how to contact these companies directly to complain.
So come on in and have a look around. We have a brand new forum that you’re welcome to join and post in. I’ve put a lot of work into this site, and collected a lot of information. If you’ve found any of it useful please consider making a donation. Thanks!